Exploring Science and the Bible for the
Intellectually Honest Inquisitor
Dedicated to the proposition that
one can believe the bible because of science rather than in
spite of science.
Mission Statement: To Spread the Good news of the reality of God and
Eternal Life through presenting technical stuff recorded in
Ancient Scripture that could not have been humanly known until
recently and independently discovered by Modern Science.
Findings of Science and the Bible
Intellectually Honest Inquiry Recognizes:
For example Psalm 104 has
traditionally been recognized as a prayer of praise to God illustrated
by wonders of nature. It is now recognized to be a
chronologically ordered list of technical details about the origins
from eternity past to eternity future illustrated with future uses of
various items in the development. See A Commentary on Psalm 104.
The significance of the book of Job is not in its story of the
righteous sufferer, but in the wealth of technical information in the
realm of science that is beyond the possibility of human origin,
recorded in very ancient times, and preserved for us today by virtue
of its medium of recording is assumed to be sacred religious writings,
religiously preserved. Therein is published information about the
origin of the continents as suddenly emerging from below sea level of
an ocean covered planet without dry land. That is the same information
passed by Joseph to the high priest at the Ancient Egyptian temple to
the sun god at Heliopolis, Egypt, long before that same information
showed up in the Ancient Egyptian Creation Myth, somewhat distorted.
Subsequently that same information was further distorted nearly beyond
recognition by Ancient Greek Scholars before making its way back into
the bible via the translation from Ancient Hebrew to Ancient Greek
about 250 BC at the Legendary Library of Science at Alexandria Egypt
by scientists with the Ancient Greek worldview. Yet, that same
original unscathed information is preserved in the book of Job, in the
104th Psalm, and in other biblical creation accounts.
But, the most significance of it all is the fact that four of those
technical details recorded in the book of Job, known to Joseph,
transferred to the Ancient Egyptian religion, distorted by humans;
four of those technical details were not discovered and published by
modern science until May 24, 2018, fully ten years after recognized in
the myriad of biblical creation accounts and published in the book
"Eyewitness to the Origins" in 2007.
That technical information recorded in the oldest book of the bible
and preserved there unscathed for thousands of years, being beyond
possibility of being of human origin, is scientific evidence for the
non-human origin of the technical information recorded in the Ancient
Scriptures of the bible; scientific evidence for the existence of an
eternally existing creator as defined in those same Ancient
There is a wealth of technical information in the Ancient Scriptures
of the bible providing scientific evidence that the source of that
information could not have been human.
In the bible there are at least 34 major
accounts of creation,
Not just the one that is familiar to everyone
and found up front in the bible.
In Addition to the bible, there are two more
written in the creation itself. All of those accounts of
the origins, interleaved and laid end to end,
Stretch all the way from Eternity Past to Eternity Future
And it was all recorded thousands of years ago
before any discovery of modern science.
And the discoveries of modern science
Are independently verifying the validity of the bible accounts. If the bible is credible in
areas of science that can be checked, such as earth earth science,
What, then do you do with what the bible says about eternal life?
It is Important: “And
shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is
better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he
were cast into the sea.”
Mark 9:42 (KJV)
Each year, as we send our brightest young people to college, over
sixty percent of those who have been brought up in the church and
have been taught that the bible teaches things that it doesn’t
really teach, fall away from their faith in the bible when they are
confronted with true evidence that what they have been taught and
reality do not coincide. The problem is, what we teach them is not
what the bible really teaches. The bible really is in accord with
reality. Theologians have methodically ignored most of the Biblical
creation accounts. Most theologians appear to be unaware that they
even exist as creation accounts. This list is the result of untold
hours of research to find all the lesser known creation accounts
hidden in the bible and to track down the best guess as to the year
and place written. No where could I find a complete list so I had to
do the work myself. And here it is free to you with my hope that you
will make good use of it. In this list, each of the creation
accounts is listed in order of the date of the original recording.
Each account is named and is referenced in the usual technical
writing practice as to author and date of writing. This information
is from the book, Eyewitness
to the Origins, by Max B. Frederick. In that book you will
find detailed information, interpretation of the science in the
bible, the history of science and the bible and lots more. Click
here for a complete list of the thirty-four biblical creation
Nearly fifty years ago,
November 14, 1969, at 11:22 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, thirty-six and
a half seconds after lift off, lightning struck and followed the
conductive vapor plume of the Apollo 12 rocket trail directly to the
launchpad on the ground.
In 1969, it was a complete surprise that the Apollo 12's rising vapor
plume caused lightning to be directed to the ground; to its own
launchpad. NASA had not anticipated it.
Some thirty years after Apollo 12, in 2003, humans had gained
sufficient knowledge to invent a lightning rocket that applied the
same scientific principles for the specific purpose of directing
lightning to its own launchpad by means of a rising vapor plume.
Meanwhile, modern science has learned many technical details about the
physics of air and water and how to direct its strike utilizing those
Those newly discovered technical details are reviewed in this
paper and compared to the technical details recorded in an
ancient account from some three thousand years ago. Those
recorded technical details indicate ancient knowledge of the science
behind directed lightning; ancient knowledge of technical information
only recently discovered by modern science.
Modern science recently
announced the discovery of something that was already published,
thousands of years ago in the ancient religious literature of the
Hebrews and the Egyptians. The discovery was that the continents
formed suddenly, emerging from below the water of our previously ocean
covered planet. Four other significant technical details are in this
discovery. All five technical details are mentioned in that ancient
Secular scholars have postulated that those ancient writings are myth;
the Egyptian came first then copied by the Hebrews and adapted to
their religion. But where did that ancient information originally come
from? One is obviously copied from the other. Which came first? This
new scientific discovery is evidence that bears on that question. This
latest scientific discovery shows that the technical details in those
ancient accounts are true.
Now that we are dealing with true details in accounts of actual
events, strict rules apply.
Did the Egyptian Creation Myth come first, then copied by the Hebrews?
Technical details in the ancient accounts along with modern science
discovery dictate otherwise. There is a basic principle that applies
to accounts of actual events. A copy cannot have more correct
technical detail than the original. The technical details in the
current modern science discovery were published first in the Ancient
Hebrew literature. Later they were copied into the Ancient Egyptian
religion. The evidence shows how this could have happened.
Remember the story in the bible about Joseph the Hebrew whose brothers
had sold into slavery and ended up in Egypt where he rose to
prominence? Pharaoh of Egypt himself, upon recognizing Joseph as a
religious man, arranged for a marriage between Joseph and the daughter
of the religious leader of Egypt. His father-in-law, Potipherah was
priest of the temple in the Ancient city of Heliopolis. That was the
temple at the center of the Egyptian Sun God worship, where the
Egyptian Creation Myth originated. Joseph remembered his Hebrew
religion. Could that be where the Ancient Egyptian Religion got the
information which was already in the more detailed Hebrew Writings?
There are many creation accounts in the bible, not just the one up
front. Those accounts, although ignored for thousands of years,
contain a wealth of technical information about the origins. Those
ancient biblical accounts mention on the order of a hundred technical
details that are consistent with technical details that either have
been, or are being confirmed by modern science discovery. The Egyptian
Creation Myth, the assumed original, contains only five of those
details. The lesser technical details cannot be the source of the
Ironically, researchers typically opposed to a creator are the ones
discovering this evidence. Even more ironic is the fact that this
information that is in the process of being discovered by science has
been in the bible for thousands of years, and experts, scientists and
theologians alike have been blinded to it. But it is there, plain and
simple, for all to see. more
Christians are faced with a quandary.
Their good book contains a schedule of the origins that puts
everything into a six-day chronology only a few thousand years
For thousands of years that six-day chronology has been assumed to be
the official biblical position concerning the beginnings.
A few hundred years ago a dilemma arose when modern science began
discovering the six-day chronology is in conflict with reality.
Untold effort has gone into resolving the conflict, but to no
avail. There have been many attempts, but until now there has
been no consensus on how to reconcile the two.
Intellectually honest analysis concludes either the six-day schedule
of Genesis 1 is not the true chronology, or science is wrong.
None of the compromises is intellectually honest.
For decades the dilemma has been assumed to be whether to believe the
bible or science.
Now an alternate chronology has been recognized. There are at
least thirty-four major creation accounts in the bible, not just one
up front as has been traditionally assumed.
In that myriad of biblical accounts is recorded a chronology that is
not only inconsistent with the six-day chronology, it contains many
more details, is consistent from account to account and consistent
with reality even to the point that it predicts yet undiscovered
These are two different biblical chronologies, the six-day schedule
that is found in only one account and inconsistent with both the rest
of the bible and with reality, or the one found in thirty-four
biblical accounts that is both internally consistent and consistent
The quandary then becomes: Which biblical chronology is intended
to be reality, and which is fiction? Under the rules of logic,
opposites cannot both be true. Both could be fiction, or
one could be true and the other fiction, but both could not be true;
at least one must be fiction. If one is to be considered to be
the official position of the bible as to the actual chronology of the
origins, then which one?
The answer to the quandary.
Recognizing and cataloguing thirty-four biblical creation accounts
produces a different chronology of the origins than the six-day
creation chronology that has been traditionally assumed to be the
"biblical" creation account.
It produces one that is consistent within all biblical creation
Not only is it consistent from account to account to account, it is
also consistent with the order of events found in the chronology
discovered by modern science
Even the one account containing the six-day chronology has the same
chronology that is consistent from account to account and with
reality; the six-day chronology of the Sabbath Principle appears to
have been overlain upon a pre-existing ancient scripture account.
The six-day chronology of Genesis 1 was never intended to be the
chronology of the beginnings.
There is an intellectually honest resolution to the six-day chronology
of Genesis 1.
It was intended to be simply be a way of using one of the biblical
creation accounts as a tool for illustrating the seven days of the
It is superimposed on one of the many biblical creation accounts
that have the true chronology that is in accord with reality.
Further, the six day schedule of creation is mentioned in only three
places in the bible and is always in the context of the Sabbath
principle. See, Intellectually
Honest Answer to the Six Days of Genesis Dilemma.
Secular scholars in the
evolutionary mindset have speculated that the Ancient Hebrew religion
evolved from an earlier Ancient Egyptian Religion. However, an
intellectually honest study of the technical information reveals
that certain technical elements of the Ancient Egyptian Creation Myth
were passed to the source of that myth through the interaction of
Joseph with his father-in-law, the High Priest of the same Ancient
Egyptian Temple where that myth later originated. Also, the Ancient
Egyptian Hymn to Aten, which secular scholars have speculated was the
source for Psalm 104 because of its remarkable similarities, and the
assumption that Psalm 104 did not exist until recorded in the book of
Psalms at the later time of King David, although having many
similarities, contains absolutely none of the technical information
that is common to both Psalm 104 and Job 38, which is the same
technical information mentioned above which was passed through Joseph
from Job 38 to the temple which was later the source of the Hymn to
If true technical
information shows up in Ancient Religious literature, it had to come
from a knowledgeable source.
It does show up in both ancient Hebrew and Egyptian religious
Recent discovery of 4 such heretofore undiscovered points It can be
traced back to the Ancient Hebrew Religion Through Joseph to his
father-in law the Egyptian High Priest
The Ancient Hebrew literature claims it came from the
extra-terrestrial creator of the heavens and earth.
Not only cannot humans make up valid technical information without
knowledge, they cannot even keep it valid,
Technical information was published and preserved in the Ancient
Scriptures of the bible.
Consistency of Biblical Technical information with reality affirms its
Inconsistency of Human interpretation, with reality, affirms its
Humans misinterpret technical information.
Traditional belief vs. Original publication
Original technical meaning key to understanding
If a Higher Power exists as the origin of the information, it is the
"God" of the bible, not the "God" of Religions
The God of the Bible vs. the God of Religion